Riosa Rads would like feedback please


hdavis
 

Hello,
I have posted the rads from yesterday we took of Rio’s fronts.  My vet had said she would send them clean with no text but when I received them they have text on them :(. I wonder if it is her program maybe that does that as she did say yesterday she would make sure no text.  I have sent a message off to see if she can send clean ones.


I would be  interested in your feedback Lavinia and thoughts on how we are progressing for her trim and overcoming our laminitis episode(s) from last winter. 



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Heather
August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Riosa 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 


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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Alignment is good on the films. Good sole depth.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


hdavis
 


hdavis
 

Oops that was sent without a message!  Sorry!

Thanks Dr. Kellon.  Hopefully her blood work comes back with good results as well!  Great to hear we are on track with the trim. My vet was very pleased with the rads and mentioned the same as you regarding the bony column alignment and sole depth.  She also mentioned I had about 6 weeks she figured left to regrow out the hoof capsule.  


I was wondering what your thoughts were on getting her back to work based on these rads.  So far we have been working in hand or online in the fields and arena focusing on big squares and straight lines.  At times we do have to do smaller squares as she can be full of beans.  But so far no issues with soundness that I can see.

Would you think we continue with the ground work and increase the duration of trot and canter? Would you wait a full year from her initial episode (end of Feb 2019) to do ridden work or wait longer to when her insulin dropped from addition of Invokana (started end of May and dropped to 200 when tested in July). Thoughts and comments?

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Heather
August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Riosa 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 


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hdavis
 

One more question as I just noticed the messages about biotin and testing.  Does it affect insulin or glucose as Rio has biotin in her customs mineral mix.  I hope not or else I just wasted money on bloods by missing this!  Ooops!!
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Heather
August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Riosa 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 


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Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Biotin will affect the insulin.   It's hard to say how much, but hopefully the results of the bloodwork will still be helpful.  Did you read through this message thread and look at the link to the study? 

https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/topic/77731380#256718

Good to see her hooves are looking so good, well done, Heather!

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Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
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hdavis
 

Thanks Kirsten!  I thought I had read the message string but clearly missed some of the info as it does state it will interfere with insulin.

I also noticed we should stop Biotin supplementation 6 days before labs and had a question regarding this. My biotin is added into my custom mineral mix from madbarn and not something I can take out manually. So to stop the biotin would one just stop giving the minerals totally and then just give those they we give for the emergency diet?
Thoughts?

I really hope this doesn’t sku my numbers too badly.  Madbarn has been adding biotin to my horse’s custom blends for about 2 years now at least so I guess all the bloods I have been checking with my 2 horses over that time period would have been affected. 

Another learning moment for me on how much you need to stay tuned into the posts on ECIR and how things can change when dealing with managing our equine friends. 
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Heather
August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Riosa 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 


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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Heather,

No, not insulin or glucose.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Heather,

From a purely mechanical standpoint, you should just wait the few weeks for her hoof capsule to be fully grown out to be ultra cautious but all lights are green at this point. Just remember that as long as insulin is elevated there is the potential for laminar weakening so remain vigilant to changes in comfort, especially when you begin work under saddle.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


hdavis
 

Thanks Dr Kellon for the feedback and I will wait until her hoof capsule is fully grown out for riding here and will continue to exercise her on the ground in the meantime as I have been doing.

Good to hear about the biotin and testing for insulin and glucose as well.  Phew as I was a bit worried that I have been getting incorrect results.  Thanks again and will keep you posted on the results when I get them back.


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Heather
August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Riosa 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 


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Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Sorry Heather, I was confused by the message chain and had thought insulin could be affected by biotin to some degree, even though it's not mentioned in the links.  I'm glad Dr Kellon corrected that for both of us!

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Kirsten and Shaku (IR) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
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