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hdavis #280581 Hello, I am in the process of sourcing hay for next year but in the meantime time still using my hay from last fall but don’t have enough to order a bag of custom mix from Mad Barn. So I ordered the individual ingredients to mix together but noticed some have additional ingredients in which are concerning to be. Biotin- Distillers grain, wheat midds 3:1 Zinc/Copper - distillers grains Should I be worried about using these items for my mineral blend? thanks in advance!! -- Heather August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 Storm Case History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Storm https://ecir.groups.io/g/Hoof/album?id=10181&p=pcreated,,,20,2,0,0 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=87086
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Sherry Morse #280584 As per Dr. Kellon's message in this discussion chain (main@ECIR.groups.io \| Distillers grain and yeast cultures) you don't want to go over a cup of the Distiller Grains in a day. Wheat middlings are high in starch so you want to know how much is in the biotin. Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891 On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 10:23:12 AM EDT, hdavis <hdavis1975@...> wrote: Hello, I am in the process of sourcing hay for next year but in the meantime time still using my hay from last fall but don’t have enough to order a bag of custom mix from Mad Barn. So I ordered the individual ingredients to mix together but noticed some have additional ingredients in which are concerning to be. Biotin- Distillers grain, wheat midds 3:1 Zinc/Copper - distillers grains Should I be worried about using these items for my mineral blend? thanks in advance!! -- Heather August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 Storm Case History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Storm https://ecir.groups.io/g/Hoof/album?id=10181&p=pcreated,,,20,2,0,0 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=87086
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hdavis #280588 Thanks so much. I searched the product names and not the ingredients… silly me! The biotin was added to begin with for my IR horses custom mineral so I would hope MB would know if it would be too high in starch for her. Is anyone else getting the biotin added to their custom mineral blend at Mad Barn? The individual packaged product states for Biotin ACTIVE INGREDIENTS PER 4 GRAMS: Biotin: 20 mg EXCIPIENT INGREDIENTS: Distillers grain, wheat midds She would only be getting I scoop - 4 grams. The zinc:copper states: ACTIVE INGREDIENTS PER 6 GRAMS: Zinc: 300 milligrams Copper: 100 milligrams EXCIPIENT INGREDIENTS: Distillers grain She would be getting 1 1/3 scoops. So I’m thinking the amounts should be under the required levels? Best wishes, Heather Davis From: main@ECIR.groups.io <main@ECIR.groups.io> on behalf of Sherry Morse via groups.io <sherry_morse@...> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 9:43:00 AM To: main@ECIR.groups.io <main@ECIR.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ECIR] Mad Barn individually packaged ingredient question As per Dr. Kellon's message in this discussion chain (main@ECIR.groups.io \| Distillers grain and yeast cultures) you don't want to go over a cup of the Distiller Grains in a day. Wheat middlings are high in starch so you want to know how much is in the biotin. Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891 On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 10:23:12 AM EDT, hdavis <hdavis1975@...> wrote: Hello, I am in the process of sourcing hay for next year but in the meantime time still using my hay from last fall but don’t have enough to order a bag of custom mix from Mad Barn. So I ordered the individual ingredients to mix together but noticed some have additional ingredients in which are concerning to be. Biotin- Distillers grain, wheat midds 3:1 Zinc/Copper - distillers grains Should I be worried about using these items for my mineral blend? thanks in advance!! -- Heather August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 Storm Case History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Storm https://ecir.groups.io/g/Hoof/album?id=10181&p=pcreated,,,20,2,0,0 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=87086 -- Heather August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 Storm Case History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Storm https://ecir.groups.io/g/Hoof/album?id=10181&p=pcreated,,,20,2,0,0 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=87086
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Cass in NorCal #280592 Heather, 4 grams is minuscule. Your horse should be fine. BTW we moderators at ECIR don’t often use the quote function replying to messages on the forum. Why? It hides the automatic signature for one. And it makes Digests very long. This is not criticism of any members. We know that each forum has its own practices and etiquette. At ECIR we try to keep things brief and to the point because of the high number of posts. In long threads we can usually avoid the need to quote by a simple salutation with the name of the person we’re answering. -- Cass, Sonoma Co., CA 2012 ECIR Group Moderator Cayuse and Diamond Case History Folder Cayuse Photos Diamond Photos
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD #280609 Cass is correct. It's not so much the level of sugar or starch as how much of it you are feeding. 4 grams is going to be less than a teaspoon. That's not an issue. -- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com EC Owner 2001
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hdavis #280626 Thanks so much! Just wanted to double check!! Much appreciated. -- Heather August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 Storm Case History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Storm https://ecir.groups.io/g/Hoof/album?id=10181&p=pcreated,,,20,2,0,0 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=87086
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