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Statement from USChia company on PPID
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Bonnie Eddy
The below statement is from the US Chia Seed Company about PPID. Is it true?
Effects most horses as they age.... From exposure to mental and physical challenges, chemicals... "--PPID tends to affect most horses as they age, generally due to oxidative stress that can oftentimes be caused by exposure to mental and physical challenges, chemicals in the environment, and a diet low in antioxidants. Free radicals target dopamine-releasing neurons in the brain, leading to the onset of PPID. The Omega-3 fatty acids and antioxidants in US Chia seeds reduce free radical information and counteract the predisposition and severity of the disease." Thank you, Bonnie with Allie and Racham(over the rainbow) from Southern California, Nov/2016 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Bonnie%20and%20Allie |
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Bonnie,
Good question. I read a few different things across the net about flax having more ALA and ligands but this study said chia has more and a more diverse polyphenol content and more soluable fiber. https://www.oatext.com/pdf/IFNM-4-182.pdf I have found chia to be much more expensive. Sounds like a combo of both would be good to feed. As far as oxidative stress causing PPID, I can't say that is true based on anything I have read here in this group or elsewhere. But oxidative stress is bad for all matters in good heath and certainly decreasing exposure to toxins and stress is good and adding antioxidants to the diet helps. Vit E is powerful and then there are a whole host of antioxidants out there. -- Lesley Bludworth Phoenix, AZ 7/2022 Sophie TWH mare IR/EMS, PPID? https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/SophieB%20Case%20History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=277749 |
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Here Chia is much more expensive than flax. I don't see any advantage to feeding it .
I think it boils down to marketing by this company but would love to hear from Dr. Kellon. -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario 2002 |
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Hi Bonnie
IMO the Chia folks are pushing the envelope a tad in their marketing. Oxidative stress is what kills the neurons. Omega 3 and vitamin E are two anti-oxidants that protect the brain. Per Dr Kellon https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/107976 More posts from Dr K on this https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/search?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0&q=posterid%3A58231++%22oxidative+stress%22 Another great romp through archive messages is searching Dr Gustafson's posts on EFA's. That is but one focus of her primary research efforts. https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/search?p=created%2C0%2Cposterid%3A61116+%2BOmega+%2Boxidative%2C100%2C2%2C0%2C0&q=posterid%3A61116+%2BOmega Balance of Omega fatty acids reflective of the horse's evolutionary diet is what ECIR recommends. Chia does not have any better delivery of those EFAs but is much more expensive. As side note: Camelina does not deliver thee correct ratio. -- Nancy C in NH ECIR Moderator 2003 ECIR Group Inc. President 2021-2022 HOW TO SEARCH THE ARCHIVES: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/wiki/1993 |
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Lesley Bludworth
Nancy,
Oxidative stress is what causes the neuron loss that leads to PPID? -- Lesley Bludworth Phoenix, AZ 7/2022 Sophie TWH mare IR/EMS, PPID? https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/SophieB%20Case%20History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=277749 |
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Nancy, Oxidative stress is what causes the neuron loss that leads to PPID?-- Lesley BludworthBeyond the links from Drs K and G that I have already posted, more to read here https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/search?p=created%2C0%2C%2C1%2C2%2C0%2C0&q=posterid%3A58231++%2Bneuron+%2Boxidative and here https://www.ecirhorse.org/physiology-ppid.php https://www.ecirhorse.org/proceedings-2015.php
Dr. Kellon reviews the physiology in depth, in her course on PPID & EMS/IR. www.drkellon.com -- Nancy C in NH ECIR Moderator 2003 ECIR Group Inc. President 2021-2022 HOW TO SEARCH THE ARCHIVES: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/wiki/1993 |
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I use the Uckele CocoOmega granules that, while expensive is a really really excellent product. And it has both chia flax, and fish oil. I definitely think it puts a superior shine on the horses coats vs other products. I split the dose with my flax oil to make it go a little further.
-- Nancy and Vinnie and Summer Oakley, Ca Joined Nov 2018 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=245855 Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie/Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=249104 |
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