Third request. Re: [ECIR] My vet would like to talk to Dr. K about Eeyore's pergolide


Cindy Giovanetti
 

Dr. K, could you please check for an email from fischerbray at aol.com. He won’t increase Eeyore’s pergolide dose without speaking to you. 

Eeyore’s case history is up to date and in my signature line (Cindy and Oden). 

Cindy




On Dec 6, 2022, at 4:29 PM, Cindy Giovanetti <cindyg@...> wrote:

 Dr. Kellon, 

My vet says he has e-mailed you but hasn’t heard back from you. Can you check your emails for a contact from Dr. Bray?

Thank you so much. I know Eeyore is not getting enough Pergolide, and I need to renew his prescription soon. 

Thank you. 

Cindy

On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:39 PM, Cindy Giovanetti <cindyg@...> wrote:

Dr. K.,

Eeyore has been on a tiny dose of Pergolide for about a year.  He's a miniature donkey, so my vet was comfortable with a very small dose.  It is clear now that he's not getting nearly enough, but my vet says he has no expertise in endocrinology, and he would like to talk to you before prescribing. Can I have him contact you?  I have created a case history for Eeyore under Cindy and Oden, linked in my signature.  Thanks so much. 
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

I haven't gotten anything, Cindy - checked spam too. Do you want me to write to him? Send me an e-mail with his name.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001
The first step to wisdom is "I don't know."


Cindy Giovanetti
 

Thank you so much. Would you please?  It’s Dr. Donald Bray.  fischerbray at aol.com. 

Thanks again. 

Cindy


On Dec 8, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Eleanor Kellon, VMD <drkellon@...> wrote:

I haven't gotten anything, Cindy - checked spam too. Do you want me to write to him? Send me an e-mail with his name.
--
Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001
The first step to wisdom is "I don't know."



Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

I will. Before I do, can you tell me what concerns you other than his ACTH level? I saw you mentioned weight loss. Anything else?
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001
The first step to wisdom is "I don't know."


Cindy Giovanetti
 

Well, he’s 27 years old. He’s a little sensitive. He gets anxious (or sore?) and goes off his feed. He shivers both with anxiety and cold (not constantly). He is anxious about the vet, and he’s anxious about my syringing his pergolide. And he’s lumpy in the donkey way.

He has lost weight, but it’s because he’s been on the program (with Oden). I don’t see that as a bad thing. He actually still needs to lose more weight. Possibly quite a bit more weight.

I know the correct dose of Pergolide will not help him with his anxiety, but it might help him with his weight, his lumpiness, his sensitivity to cold, and his soreness, if indeed, he is sore. And since my syringing him causes him so much anxiety, it sure ought to be the right does.

Thanks again for helping.

Cindy


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Cindy, Oden, and Eeyore, North Texas
On ECIR protocol since 2/19
https://www.facebook.com/LifeWithOden/
History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Cindy%20and%20Oden
Photos: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=91125


Ronelle
 

I know this is anecdotal, but this might help your guy's nervousness.  My horse has been a nervous/scared for a long time due to having poor vision.  As he continued to lose vision (almost completely blind), his nervousness got worse (my nervousness/anxiety too).  I've tried commercial calming meds for horses but nothing helped him.  Several months ago I was introduced to a herbalist who suggested the herb "Skull Cap".  (It looks and smells like grass).  She said to start slow, so I started Yo at one tsp.  I put it in his mash (3 oz of hay pellets, twice a day). I moved up every 4-5 day and got to one Tablespoons twice a day.  It seems to be help quite a bit.  He had stopped pacing before meals, pretty strong spooking and chewing wood.  Then he started some of this behavior again, particularly the spooking and chewing wood.  I increased the Skull Cap and now have settled at two Tablespoons twice a day.  He is in general calmer plus less spooking, but mostly flinching or looking in the direction of the noise.  Once the snow goes away, I'll start going off my property again with him.   I put a little bit in my tea for me.  I buy it through Mountain Rose Herbs (based in Oregon).  They use organic herbs, have sales regularly and for me are as local as possible.   I haven't been using it long enough to calculate the monthly cost  (normally $57.00, plus shipping, per pound). 

Ronelle and Yoyo
2015 Bend, Or, US


Lorna Cane
 

Hi Ronelle,

Is this American Skullcap ?

--
Lorna in Eastern Ontario
2002


Ronelle
 

Yes it is. Botanical name:  Scutellaria Laterifora.  (hope I spelled that correctly)
--
Ronelle and Yoyo
2015 Bend, Or, US


Lorna Cane
 

Good,Ronelle. I thought so.
Thanks.

--
Lorna in Eastern Ontario
2002