Winter laminitis -25 degrees celcius
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Holding so far at -25 - lined boots, BOT leg wraps, bell boots and wool socks. Blanket and deep shavings in stall. How do we mange with snow (lots!!) on its way?? |
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Bobbie Day
Stacey you’ll most likely get lots of ideas but you just have to try to keep the snow out and have extras on hand to switch out. I used to duct tape the boots so no snow could get in, bell boots should help with that. I had probably three or four sets to trade out. Sometimes a couple times a day. Nothings easy that’s for sure!
-- Bobbie and Maggie Desi (over the rainbow bridge 7/21) Utah, Nov 2018 ECIR Group Primary Response https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Bobbie%20and%20Maggie https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=271156 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Bobbie%20and%20Desi https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78821 |
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Trisha DePietro
Absorbent baby diapers- one with the absorbent side to the hooof and the other diaper with absorbent side to the boot. They get heavy, I change every 12 hours.
Boot/glove drier - hang the boots on it helps to speed up the drying process. plastic bread sleeves - put over the socks to keep the wool sock dry- introduce to horse first before placing plastic bag over foot! Lots of gold bond powder- the blue container seems to work the best. Leg gaiters that you would use for snowshoeing or skiing to keep the snow out of the top of the boot... old ballerina leg warmers they are long, but can double up and add that little extra insulation from the knee to the ankle. Hope this helps. Trisha DePietro Aug 2018 NH Primary Responder Dolly and Hope's Case Histories Dolly's Photos Hope's Photos HOW TO SEARCH THE ARCHIVES: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/wiki/1993 |
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Great list,Trisha.
There are also gaiters (be sure not to Google gators,as I did!!) for horses. Nylon,etc. -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario 2002 |
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Can back on track bell boots be used instead of hoof boots. It’s mild where I live in the 30s overnight. I am adding fleece shipping boots for legs. Thank you. --
Linda Schaap
Circle L Ranch
Palo Cedro, CA
530-524-3524
Embracing Nature with Love and Light -- Linda S in California 2011 |
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Winter Wellies by Horse socks. Not inexpensive and may have to wait a bit but they can be had to fit over boots or not, as needed. Also they make a lined one so the royal wraps can be saved for back up.
-- Kandace K Rocky Mountains, Alberta, Oct 2020 K and J (over the rainbow bridge) and now T https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Kandace%20J%20and%20K https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=259062 |
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Hi Stacey,
Do you know Baron has cold induced hoof pain, or are you being proactive? I only say that because it can be a lot of time and expense to keep hooves warm and it may be that Baron doesn't have this problem. You might find once it snows (ie, warms up and the frozen ground is padded in soft snow) that he doesn't need the extra effort? Dealing with boots that are wet from snow gets a lot harder because they need time to dry out between changes. You can buy boots that can go in your dryer if you need them to dry fast, but I find that in our warmer snowy weather it's ok to take the boots off with my old horse. Baron is very young so you're not looking at a horse with years of damage to his hooves. That's not to say he can't have cold induced hoof pain, just that it's possible he doesn't have it (yet?). Edited to add: I also have a young horse that I aquired in September who had acute laminitis from February to August last year, but he is not showing signs of cold related hoof pain. So it's not a rule that horses will react to cold temps just because they have a history of laminitis. It IS important to correct the diet though, to prevent additional acute episodes. -- Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019 Kitimat, BC, Canada ECIR Group Moderator Shaku's Photo Album Snickers' Case History Snickers' Photo Album |
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Hi Kirsten, thanks for your input!!-- Stacey & Baron |
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Hi Stacey,
What we call winter laminitis is not actual laminitis where you'd see a growth ring. It's literally just cold-induced hoof pain due to what we believe is damaged circulation from previous laminitic or sub-laminitic episodes. It's unlikely that such a young horse with no history of acute laminitis would have that much damage to the hoof circulation that they would get cold-induced hoof pain, unless they were born with a congenital defect to hoof circulation (extremely unlikely). Baron could easily have been teetering on the edge for acute laminitis occurring in winter if he had hoof pain before the molasses--all it takes is inappropriate hay elevating his insulin--and the cold weather would have worsened it because of the vasoconstriction that comes with high insulin, plus the added increase in insulin that cold weather can cause. TheN, the molasses on top of all that of course would have pushed him over the edge into acute laminitis. All that to say that he may be fine without any if the cold-related precautions. It's up to you if/when you want to test that though. I'd consider leaving it all off and seeing how he does now that we're in a warm snap, unless he's too blanket conditioned to do that safely this winter? It's more important to make sure his insulin is staying low (did you get him tested with the new vet?) since that's what caused the laminitis that produced the growth ring, and if it's not then take the dietary +/- medication measures needed to bring it down. -- Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019 Kitimat, BC, Canada ECIR Group Moderator Shaku's Photo Album Snickers' Case History Snickers' Photo Album |
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Are you sure he's only 3? I ask because he has a greatly thickened horn lamellar zone which didn't occur overnight. He has sinking and some rotation with gas pockets in both toes likely because they are too far out in front of him. The other possibility here is white line disease. He's overweight but doesn't have an obvious large crest. Are the hollows above his eyes bulging?
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com BOGO 2 for 1 Course Sale Through End of January |
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Yes, I’m sure of his age. He’s registered and I was there when he was 3 days old. His latest X-rays this fall showed marked improvement. I believe I added those but they had mark ups on them. Baron is still being fed the same - minus one lb of hay per day. I need to exercise him more but weather and ice aren’t permitting currently. i will be having bloodwork repeated in Spring. He is currently not in a laminitic state (knock on wood) and I’ve eased off the boots/leg coverings as it is about zero degrees currently. The new vet scored him at 6 - 6.5 BSC. -- |
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Note: I added X-ray pics from Sept 2022 without markups. Not sure how to add this to his ‘file’ and link. Sorry! Would love a second opinion. |
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Lavinia Fiscaletti
Hi Stacy,
Would you pleas put all the photos in one album. Thanks. -- Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR) Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge Jan 05, RI Moderator ECIR |
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Sorry, I find this really difficult to navigate :/
-- Stacey & Baron Terrace BC 2022 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Stacey%20and%20Baron https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=278023 |
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Sherry Morse
Hi Stacey, When you want to add a new picture or x-ray you just need to go to your photo album (the link in your signature) and click on the "Add Photo" button in the top left corner. This way all your photos are in the same location. The x-rays from September are better than the earlier ones but toe is still a bit long IMO and he has no sole so should be in boots.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891 |
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thank you. I think I added them now. And yes, my vet had said that the toes were still too long at this point. She said he measured over 11mm on soles and that was great (?)
-- Stacey & Baron Terrace BC 2022 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Stacey%20and%20Baron https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=278023 |
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