Winter laminitis -25 degrees celcius
Holding so far at -25 - lined boots, BOT leg wraps, bell boots and wool socks. Blanket and deep shavings in stall.
How do we mange with snow (lots!!) on its way??
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Stacey & Baron
Terrace BC 2022
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Boot/glove drier - hang the boots on it helps to speed up the drying process.
plastic bread sleeves - put over the socks to keep the wool sock dry- introduce to horse first before placing plastic bag over foot!
Lots of gold bond powder- the blue container seems to work the best.
Leg gaiters that you would use for snowshoeing or skiing to keep the snow out of the top of the boot...
old ballerina leg warmers they are long, but can double up and add that little extra insulation from the knee to the ankle.
Hope this helps.
Trisha DePietro
Aug 2018
NH
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Kandace K
Rocky Mountains, Alberta, Oct 2020
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Do you know Baron has cold induced hoof pain, or are you being proactive? I only say that because it can be a lot of time and expense to keep hooves warm and it may be that Baron doesn't have this problem. You might find once it snows (ie, warms up and the frozen ground is padded in soft snow) that he doesn't need the extra effort? Dealing with boots that are wet from snow gets a lot harder because they need time to dry out between changes. You can buy boots that can go in your dryer if you need them to dry fast, but I find that in our warmer snowy weather it's ok to take the boots off with my old horse. Baron is very young so you're not looking at a horse with years of damage to his hooves. That's not to say he can't have cold induced hoof pain, just that it's possible he doesn't have it (yet?).
Edited to add:
I also have a young horse that I aquired in September who had acute laminitis from February to August last year, but he is not showing signs of cold related hoof pain. So it's not a rule that horses will react to cold temps just because they have a history of laminitis. It IS important to correct the diet though, to prevent additional acute episodes.
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Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
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Hi Kirsten,
Its been awhile since I’ve been on the site.
I was advised last winter that my horse had winter foot pain. I’m not certain as his foot pain became apparent 10 day’s following a slip injury to his hind leg where he was in excruciating pain and treated with Bute and DUMMY me, added molasses to encourage him to eat the bute in feed. 10 days after injury he showed signs of foot pain and in late Jan I saw a gut turning telltale depressed ring growing out from his hoof. X-rays in May showed he had foundered (which I understand is unusual with winter laminitis) it’s been a trying time with our weather. Thankfully he is in my backyard and socks wraps and boots can be changed regularly. I e backed off a bit on the level of protection using wool socks and BOT bell boots in the milder weather. Knock on wood so far so good. I had our new, local vet out just to do a check over. He is good so far. Still needs to drop some weight so will dial back a lb of hay to 14lbs. Im finding he’s pretty cranky with the hay nets so am experimenting with loose hay and using his hay balls more. He’s more settled with them than reefing on the hay net constantly.
thanks for your input!!--
Stacey & Baron
Terrace BC 2022
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What we call winter laminitis is not actual laminitis where you'd see a growth ring. It's literally just cold-induced hoof pain due to what we believe is damaged circulation from previous laminitic or sub-laminitic episodes. It's unlikely that such a young horse with no history of acute laminitis would have that much damage to the hoof circulation that they would get cold-induced hoof pain, unless they were born with a congenital defect to hoof circulation (extremely unlikely).
Baron could easily have been teetering on the edge for acute laminitis occurring in winter if he had hoof pain before the molasses--all it takes is inappropriate hay elevating his insulin--and the cold weather would have worsened it because of the vasoconstriction that comes with high insulin, plus the added increase in insulin that cold weather can cause. TheN, the molasses on top of all that of course would have pushed him over the edge into acute laminitis.
All that to say that he may be fine without any if the cold-related precautions. It's up to you if/when you want to test that though. I'd consider leaving it all off and seeing how he does now that we're in a warm snap, unless he's too blanket conditioned to do that safely this winter?
It's more important to make sure his insulin is staying low (did you get him tested with the new vet?) since that's what caused the laminitis that produced the growth ring, and if it's not then take the dietary +/- medication measures needed to bring it down.
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Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019
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Eleanor in PA
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The first step to wisdom is "I don't know."
Yes, I’m sure of his age. He’s registered and I was there when he was 3 days old.
His latest X-rays this fall showed marked improvement. I believe I added those but they had mark ups on them.
Baron is still being fed the same - minus one lb of hay per day. I need to exercise him more but weather and ice aren’t permitting currently.
i will be having bloodwork repeated in Spring. He is currently not in a laminitic state (knock on wood) and I’ve eased off the boots/leg coverings as it is about zero degrees currently.
The new vet scored him at 6 - 6.5 BSC.
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Stacey & Baron
Terrace BC 2022
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Note: I added X-ray pics from Sept 2022 without markups. Not sure how to add this to his ‘file’ and link. Sorry!
Would love a second opinion.
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Stacey & Baron
Terrace BC 2022
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Stacey & Baron
Terrace BC 2022
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Stacey & Baron
Terrace BC 2022
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