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j-herb and boot questions; tiko now barefoot and sore.

Daisy Shepherd
 

tiko now barefoot x 24 hours.  his feet grow slowly and has thin soles' should i try j-herb.  what is the dosing and best source for j-herb. my farrier has agreed to come  every 2 to 4 weeks to trim and reassess. he is sore, started keratex hoof hardner  yesterday( have used in past ) and will continue. put cavallo boots size 5  on today on front. taped up hinds with foam and duct tape for today.  probably may need different boots; his feet are longer ( toe too long )  than wide.  thank you lavinia for the markups and your help;  i will get all photos posted when my computer helper is available.  any suggestion for boots greatly appreciated.  thank all of you for your help, daisy, tiko, whisper
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0

Sherry Morse
 

Hi Daisy,


2 - given that Tiko's toes have been consistently too long and his sole thin it's not surprising he's sore out of shoes.  You will need to measure him for boots and then see what's available that fits his feet but be prepared to go through several different sizes as his feet become the size that they should be.  Facebook has several used hoof boot groups to buy/sell/trade boots.  You can also do styrofoam and duct tape if needed if you can't find boots to fit. 

3 - IME drying out the hoof with Keratex isn't going to be a long term solution but your mileage may vary on that.

Thanks,
Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge)
EC Primary Response 
PA 2014
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891


Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

I wouldn't start the Jiaogulan until your trim has the toes back where they belong and you have a schedule in place to keep them there.
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Eleanor in PA

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Daisy Shepherd
 

thank you dr kellon,  as his feet grow so slowly, it may take awhile, ;  finally i have a farrier who is willing to help..  i do worry  about IR as is not getting exercise. thank you, daisy,tiko,whisper
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0

Daisy Shepherd
 

thank you. i finally have a farrier who is willing to help with his trim. he does worry that getting his toe back may be difficult.  thanks for the reminder about used boots.  daisy,tiko,whisper
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0

Daisy Shepherd
 

tiko in boots 24/7,  less sore each day, today appears not sore in boots; when out of boot in soft footing appears much less sore  still  sore on harder ground and gravel. daily bute at 1.5 to 2 grams.  do not want to give bute  what do you recommend  how much and how often?  thank you so much; i so want he and i to  help this to happen  to shorten those toes  and hopefully thicken his sole  and stay barefoot.  daisy, tiko, whisper
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0

Maxine McArthur
 

Hi Daisy
It's great Tiko is looking less sore. Can you boot him for the harder surfaces and let him have some barefoot time on the soft footing? My horses have been barefoot their whole lives, but I still boot them to ride, because their living area is softer than our trails. 
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Maxine and Indy (PPID) and Dangles (PPID)

Canberra, Australia 2010
ECIR Primary Response

https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Maxine%20and%20Indy%20and%20Dangles 
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=933

 

Daisy Shepherd
 

thank you maxine.  today is day 9 no shoes, no bute  x2 days. still sore on rocks but pretty good on grass, in his pen, on soft dirt, / he is boarded so cannot do boots  just to walk to his turnout pasture with muzzle.  continue to use keratex,  he has soft bedding for his shed,  ground still freezing here, bless his heart his soles are so thin.  any other ideas greatly appreciated  from all of you. thank you, daisy, tiko, whisper
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0

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