CH images question


pardacanda@...
 

Is it possible or even ok to upload Wonder's radiography imahes to her CH file? I can take photos later today but I also have the radiography images.
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Angela/Wonder, Southeast Texas, 2023


Sherry Morse
 

Hi Angela,

As you'll read in the Case History information that was just shared with you as a new member to the ECIR group,  we do want to see any radiographs and photos shared in the case history for Wonder.  Do you have specific questions about the trim?  

Please make sure you update your signature with the link to Wonder's Case History (https://ch.ecirhorse.org/case-history.php?id=149).  If you need assistance with that please let us know.   What follows is your personal introduction to DDT+E, the ECIR Group protocol found to immediately address the comfort and welfare of the metabolic equine. Bookmark this message so that during your journey you may return when you need to review more information. Blue font links in each section will lead to further evidence-based and sourced information. We include a folder specifically for vets and other pros. Links previously opened will display in grey when you return to this message.


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Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge)
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Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Hi Angela,  

I see you have 1 xray under Hoof Issues.   When you create your Hoof Issues it gives you several options for what images to upload.  If you don't have hoof photos yet, you can choose "Hoof photos - will be uploaded soon".  That gives you a button you can click on later when you have the hoof photos and are ready to upload them.

I took a peak at Wonder's bloodwork.  The glucose is in the diabetic range, but that doesn't mean she's diabetic.  It means her hay is wildly inappropriate for her and she can't produce enough insulin to control her blood sugars.  Glucose should be no more than 100 on a hay or grass-only diet.  I've seen similar 'diabetic' results in both my EMS horses when eating a clover rich hay that was more suited for dairy cows than horses with EMS.  Have you put her on the Emergency Diet?  Her hay definitely needs to be soaked, but I think you need to look for a different hay altogether as I strongly suspect soaking will not be effective enough to lower insulin to a safe level.

You can try putting her on Triple Crown Naturals Timothy Balance cubes, which are garanteed to be safe and already have the minerals needed to make it a complete feed, with the exception of salt, ground flaxseed, and vitamin E.  The cubes are fed by weight, at 75% of the weight of the hay you normally feed, because they are more calorie dense. 

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Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
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pardacanda@...
 

Thank you both for your replies. 

Wonder had her regular ration of a small handful of Equine Senior the day of her bloodwork (2x per day). Otherwise she has been on pasture. She is now in a round pen with very short grass, no feed, and a pinch of alfalfa as a treat, suggested by my vet. I do not have a stall and dry lot yet. The vet suggested that she will probably need Sand Clear every so often.

She is pasture mate to an elderly mare so I have to keep them close to each other.

I have not yet found a grazing muzzle to fit her tiny face. Attempt #2 arrives tomorrow. The grass in the round pen is dwindling.

I just located the Timothy cubes about 30 miles from here and will be picking those up tomorrow. 

My farrier has asked for the vet's instructions, so hopefully her excess toe can be fixed gradually. 

I will fix my signature right now.

I'm so glad that we found you all! Thank you again.
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Angela & Wonder
Southeast Texas, 2023


Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Hi Angela,

I'm glad you got her off pasture!  Be aware that the short grass in the round pen can also be problematic, especially if that's her only source of food.  Stressed grass can be higher in sugar than healthy grass. 

Once you have her setup on her new management plan (hopefully a dry lot with hay or the recommended cubes) I'd recommend redoing bloodwork to make sure her insulin and glucose have normalized.  For pasture turnout, the muzzle should be blocked off completely so she can't eat but she can still drink.  She can have up to 4-6 hrs without food before you need to bring her in for a meal.

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Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019
Kitimat, BC, Canada
ECIR Group Moderator
 
Shaku's Case History
Shaku's Photo Album

Snickers' Case History
Snickers' Photo Album