Devils Claw Plus IR/PPID
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Diana RL
Hi,
I just wanted to confirm the Uckele Devil's Claw Plus pellets are ok for PPID/IR horses (one is on Invokana, both on Prascend). Thanks. -- Diana and Scooter Jan 2019 PA https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Scooter%20-%20Case%20History https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=283361 |
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Diana,
No, they're not because of the Yucca. Use either Phyto-Quench pellets or Hemp Joint to get the Devil's Claw (no Hemp Joint for PPID). -- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com BOGO 2 for 1 Course Sale Through End of January |
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Diana RL
Thanks so much for the clarification. Phyto-quench it is. On Tue, Feb 7, 2023, 11:22 AM Eleanor Kellon, VMD <drkellon@...> wrote: Diana, |
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Or use straight DC powder from Herbalcom.com, 1 Tbs for a 450-500kg horse.
-- Susan H TX 2021 |
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Bruce and Niki Eike
Is it safe to use Phyto-Quench with Laminox for a mini who is PPID/IR and is on Prascend/metformin and Pentosan. I was thinking that the Phyto-Quench could help with inflammation - she often has some fluid accumulation over her stifles and she needs to keep exercising to help IR control.
-- Niki with Sarah and Ginger (over the rainbow bridge) MD, USA Joined 2006 Case Histories Ginger's Photos Ω |
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Yes, that's fine.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com |
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cathyjomitchell
Why no Hemp Joint for PPID?
-- Cathy and Mikey (Arabian) in MN joined 2008 |
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CBD and possibly other cannabinoids can bind to the dopamine receptors so would compete with pergolide.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com |
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TERRI JENNINGS
Awhile back I was reading about PEA and the Endocannabinoid system. Does PEA cause a problem with Prascend?
Terri Jennings, Ph.D. Healing Strides Psychotherapy, Inc. Licensed Psychologist PSY 27263 CA 707-845-8737 Arcata, CA -- Terri Jennings with Mr. Beefy, Finn, Elliott and Teeny (over the rainbow) Arcata, CA https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Terri%20and%20Mr.%20Beefy,%20Finn,%20Elliott%20and%20Teeny https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=258266 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=261227 Joined 2019 |
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PEA can increase dopamine levels but it is not a mimetic of dopamine like pergolide is. In other words, it does not bind to dopamine receptors so won't interfere with pergolide. It also won't help because the remaining dopaminergic neurons in PPID are exhausted and cannot produce dopamine. After being on pergolide for a while they recover but there is no evidence the horse then has an excess of dopamine.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com |
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Susan...I have read that DC has a no odor but has a bitter taste. How do you feed yours and has the taste been a problem?
Thanks so much. -- Sandy March 2017, Onalaska, WA, USA Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sandy%20and%20Andy . |
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Susan...me again. How did you arrive at the dosage of the powdered Devils Claw?
Thank you! -- Sandy March 2017, Onalaska, WA, USA Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sandy%20and%20Andy . |
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