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Kandace Krause
 

Hello all,
I have not updated CH as all things to influence are in flux - in the middle of diet change for new hay balance (K. Gustafson), Test results just in today and this Calculation scares me.

Blood drawn Nov 4 at 1;30 pm, hay availibility would have been almost 100% for 4 hours. Temperature - 4C
ACTH 12.4 pmol/L
Insulin 230 pmol/L
Glucose 4.9 mmol/L
EMS Calculator gives me
G/I 2.65
RISQI 0.17
MIRG 12
Saying at high risk of laminitis.?

Horse is in light work and has been sound to ride for the full past 12 months.  
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Kandace K
Rocky Mountains, Alberta, Oct 2020
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Trisha DePietro
 

Hi Kandace. Which horse are you refering to J or K? When the insulin levels are this high it can trigger laminitis and pain in the feet.

Because of the diet changes- what exactly did you feed the morning of the test besides the hay? 

If the horse is in "light work" and has been sound to ride- I would be increasing the exercise- 30 minutes a day (or more,if horse is able)  of a working trot and a working walk would be very helpful in moving that insulin level down.  

Hope this helps.
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Trisha DePietro
Aug 2018
NH
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Nancy C
 

I would add to Trisha's questions: What was the ambient temperature at the time of blood draw?
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Nancy C in NH
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Trisha DePietro
 

-4 C= about 25 F 
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Trisha DePietro
Aug 2018
NH
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Nancy C
 

Totally missed this.  Thanks Trisha.

Kandace, you probably know that the temp could have an effect on raising insulin.

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Nancy C in NH
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Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Hi Kandace,

Just an FYI, an insulin of 230 pmol/L is about 38 uIU/ml (divide pmol/L by 6 to convert), which is abnormally high but not in the red zone for laminitis, which begins at about 80 uIU/ml.  I would continue to exercise as much as possible.  If you add soaking her hay you can probably bring the insulin down to near normal levels.

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Kitimat, BC, Canada
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