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lfitz66
I see it is noted in many places that Jiagogulan should be given separate from meals. Does this include hay? I can easily separate it from ALL food in the afternoon, but in the morning I only have a certain amount of time to work with. I give it to her, I clean her stall, and then she gets her morning hay. Also does this group support pairing it with AAKG?
Thank you! -- Leigh and May Michigan Joined 2020 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Leigh%20and%20May https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=260799
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Hi Leigh
If you are giving the J-herb around 20 minutes before her morning hay, that's fine. I often end up with only ten minutes between arriving, syringing the j-herb, preparing and feeding hay, but the main thing is that you check the gums to make sure you are dosing to effect. If her gums are pinker, what you are doing is working. If not, you can increase the dose a bit and see how that goes. As far as I know, the AAKG is used when tendon/ligament damage is suspected or support is needed, or for winter laminitis. There are some cautions on the use of both jiaogulan and AAKG. Have you seen the documents in our Files here? main@ECIR.groups.io | Files -- Maxine and Indy (PPID) and Dangles (PPID) Canberra, Australia 2010 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Maxine%20and%20Indy%20and%20Dangles
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hdavis
How long does it take the j herb to be out of the horses body say for example if you want to check your dose and start again?
I have a horse which may be getting too much and want to restart so was just wondering on the appropriate timing for that. Sorry for hijacking this post!
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From: main@ECIR.groups.io <main@ECIR.groups.io> on behalf of Maxine McArthur <maxineemc@...>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 11:16:47 PM To: main@ECIR.groups.io <main@ECIR.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ECIR] JHerb Question Hi Leigh
If you are giving the J-herb around 20 minutes before her morning hay, that's fine. I often end up with only ten minutes between arriving, syringing the j-herb, preparing and feeding hay, but the main thing is that you check the gums to make sure you are dosing to effect. If her gums are pinker, what you are doing is working. If not, you can increase the dose a bit and see how that goes. As far as I know, the AAKG is used when tendon/ligament damage is suspected or support is needed, or for winter laminitis. There are some cautions on the use of both jiaogulan and AAKG. Have you seen the documents in our Files here? main@ECIR.groups.io | Files -- Maxine and Indy (PPID) and Dangles (PPID) Canberra, Australia 2010 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Maxine%20and%20Indy%20and%20Dangles
-- Heather August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 Case History
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Storm
https://ecir.groups.io/g/Hoof/album?id=10181&p=pcreated,,,20,2,0,0
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lfitz66
Thank you, Maxine. Yes, I have read the files. We did have some winter laminitis happening and that was why the suggestion of pairing with AAKG was made.
-- Leigh and May Michigan Joined 2020 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Leigh%20and%20May https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=260799
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Sherry Morse
Hi Heather, Rather than stopping, why don't you just decrease the dose to the typical starting dose and then go up again as indicated by gum color.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891
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hdavis
From: main@ECIR.groups.io <main@ECIR.groups.io> on behalf of Sherry Morse via groups.io <sherry_morse@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 7:33:37 AM To: main@ECIR.groups.io <main@ECIR.groups.io> Subject: Re: [ECIR] JHerb Question Hi Heather,
Rather than stopping, why don't you just decrease the dose to the typical starting dose and then go up again as indicated by gum color.
Thanks,
Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891 -- Heather August 5, 2017, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada Riosa https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=8819 Case History
https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Heather%20and%20Storm
https://ecir.groups.io/g/Hoof/album?id=10181&p=pcreated,,,20,2,0,0
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Leigh- I just wanted to let you know I personally feed my gelding 1 tablespoon twice a day. So you might want to increase if you haven't seen the gums change pink. And of course you don't need to jump up that high- just a gradual increase per reading her gum coloring.
-- Candice Piraino Primary Response Team September 2018, Summerfield, FL Shark's Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Candice%20and%20Shark Shark's Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=71507
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