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Pennington-Boggio's <pennbo@...>
Help! When I got home late from work tonight I discovered that my
Cushings mare Star had found her way into the breezeway of the barn where all the hay is stored. She also tore open an old bag of Kruse Horse Feed (alfalfa and grass pellets with supplements) that was waiting to go to the dump because it had gotten wet. I can't tell how much she ate of anything although it doesn't look like she ate too many of the pellets. The hay? It's anybody's guess. She is bright eyed and has a good attitude but her stomach is gurgling something awful and she might have a temperature. I gave her a bit of her Strategy with her pergo in it, extra corn oil, and some probiotics but I am looking for any suggetions to help move this through faster. I am scared to death this will bring on a colic, or worse, founder. Please send any suggestions you might have. I am not sure what else to do. Thanks, Chris in CA
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luktannr@...
I would say to call your vet if you haven't already - there are
things they can do to help prevent further complications and they'll tell you what to look for if things are going to go bad!--- In EquineCushings@..., "Pennington-Boggio's" <pennbo@b...> wrote: Help! When I got home late from work tonight I discovered that mywaiting to go to the dump because it had gotten wet. I can't tell how muchshe ate of anything although it doesn't look like she ate too many ofthe pellets. The hay? It's anybody's guess. She is bright eyed and has amight have a temperature. I gave her a bit of her Strategy with her pergoin it, extra corn oil, and some probiotics but I am looking for anythis will bring on a colic, or worse, founder.to do.
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rich goldy <rmgoldy@...>
Have you contacted your vet? I would start there. Then go to the groups
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links section. Log into the "treating founder w/out horses shoes" site. Contact Gretchen A.S.A.P. Get her walking around, movement will really help move this stuff through more quickly. Hope everything turns out o.k. Keep us posted. You and Star are in my prayers. Mary G. Pennington-Boggio's wrote:
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belindavet@...
Dear Chris and others,
As a vet with many patients now being treated for pituitary adenomas ans related signs, I'd like to answer your concerns. It is never good for any horse to overeat on starches, or make radical diet changes. Most horses can eat hay free choice and never have a problem (unless they get too fat, but we are not talking about that kind of thing with a single episode). The exception is a real high protein alfalfa or a hay with preservatives, that when first eaten in large quantities, seems to cause mostly gassy or irritable-bowel type colics, which usually respond well just to a little mineral oil and pain medicine like Banamine. Starches are a whole other matter. Rapidly fermented starches produce lactic acid (which can cause colic and laminitis) and can also cause overgrowths of gas-producing bacteria and bacteria which cause colitis(which can also lead to laminitis). Horses that definitely or possible have eaten large quantities(two times their regular portion or more) of a graim type feed should probably be given a gallon of mineral oil preventatively. It speeds up passage and slows fermentation, and will usually prevent both colic and laminitis. Alfalfa or grass pellets are also unlikely to do this. Molds are unpredictable. When in doubt, oil the horse! If it has been 24 hours and nothing bad has happened, you are probably out of the woods. As an aside, when one of my "cushinoid" patients founders, we can never relate it to diet or exercise changes, it seems. They just do it. And that is a key to finding younger horses with the problem. Any horse that founders for no good reason should be tested. We have seen one horse age 7 with all the classic test results. Belinda S. Thompson DVM Pine City Veterinary Clinic Pine City, NY belindavet@...
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Lynne Brinkley <rhune@...>
Hi Chris,
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As for the colic, the gurgling is a good thing as long as her stomach is making noise on both sides. Means everything is working well. Founder is another problem and if the feed was moldy that will not help. The extra hay is not as bad as the grain, but with a Cushing horse, I have found that it can make matters worse. Best bet is to watch her closely and feel down just above the ankle on all her feet in the depression between the bones. If you feel a throbbing pulse, the mare is foundering. Been through this twice in the past month myself. Once you have made certain she is fine, read her the riot act and ground her butt for at least a week. Helps with the stallions here. Good luck. Lynne
Help! When I got home late from work tonight I discovered that my
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