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oats: whole, crimped, rolled, steamed


Daisy Shepherd
 

dr kellon recommends to me to feed 50:50 oats and beet pulp.   whole oats are the only ones i find with no additive, crimped and rolled have soybean oil.    what do i feed?   thank you as always dr. kellon for your many words of wisdom, daisy and tiko
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
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Sherry Morse
 

Hi Daisy,

My experience feeding straight oats goes back to the dark ages, but at the time crimped were recommended for the horses to get the best nutrition as the whole oats were expected to go right through them.  Soy is a bit tricky to keep everything straight as soybean meal is bad for IR but as per this message from Nancy (https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/243636) the oil is ok and here's another message from Dr. Kellon about oils in general: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/230649.




Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Whole oats is fine. Research has shown processing does not improve the digestibility of oats, unlike other grains. The hulls aren't even  fermented well so they so up  in the manure - but empty. Oil in the other oats is added to settle the dust.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Frances C.
 

Whole oats going right through? Check the manure, pull out the suspected whole oats, squeeze them open to see if the kernel is still there or is it just an empty hull. Appearances can be deceiving.
- Frances C.
December 2017, Washington & California
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Kathy Thomas
 

It is OK to feed oats to our horses?


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Kathy 2017 and Donna

Harrowsmith, Ontario

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Lavinia Fiscaletti
 

Oats are not generally an appropriate feed for IR horses.

They may be indicated in a horse who is well-stabilized, working regularly and "hitting the wall" after work as a means to meet extra demands placed on it during work. See this File on Feeding Laminitics When Back in Work:

https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/5%20Core%20Diet/2.%20Feeding%20Recovered%20Laminitics%20When%20Back%20in%20Work.pdf

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Lavinia, George Too, Calvin (PPID) and Dinky (PPID/IR)
Nappi, George and Dante Over the Bridge
Jan 05, RI
Moderator ECIR


Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Kathy,

As a rule, no. Oats mixed with beet pulp are for horses that are back in regular medium to hard work that are hitting a wall in progressing in their training or with endurance and energy.  Even then it is only fed immediately after work, as described.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Daisy Shepherd
 

Dr kellon, on the days tiko is not worked , should I not feed the oats and beet pulp. Work is usually 5x per week. Thanks daisy and tiko

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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

The ONLY time you feed the oats and BP is within an hour of stopping formal work. Not before. Not on days he doesn't work. Not longer than an hour after stopping work.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001


Daisy Shepherd
 

thank you dr. kellon,   i think i have all my ducks in a row.  daisy and tiko
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
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