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hello this group is amazing. I’m so glad I have you guys. I have just posted the recheck of the blood. It looks normal to me?
so what does this mean? I have not soaked the hay because he would not eat it. he has been getting 10 kg of hay per day of which I would say 2 kg is probably stems that he leaves behind. Shall I just continue on this path, but does it mean that he can also go on pasture? it would be great to be able to start turning him out in the field. Also, what is the protocol for exercise? I am exercising him, but I stop when he feels tired and I don’t force him to do anything. Mostly we go for long walks with a little bit of trot and canter at the end. he also gets to run around himself in the arena. he will do some gallops and bucking and then when he’s done, he just comes over for me to put him back in the stable. still not eating any minersls or supplements and I have not yet found the soy hull pellets. thanks! -- Christine and Chanceler 2022-11 Portugal https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=282893 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Chanceler’s%20case%20history |
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Christine,if you haven't already,try AGROBS website.Type in your postal code.
I don't *think* they actually do carry/bring in SHP,but not sure. Worth a try. I hope they aren't the only game in town. -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario 2002 |
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Hi Christine,
If that insulin result was non-fasting then what he's eating now is fine. In fact, not just fine, he's doing great metabolically! We would not consider him to have EMS with that result. So I would not worry about forcing any diet changes, keep feeding what you are feeding. From what I've seen here, I'm not convinced he had metabolic laminitis, are you? His insulin (and ACTH) have be never been high enough to be even close to causing laminitis. His Jun 2022 hoof photos are overgrown but I don't see signs of laminitis in the hoof wall. The pink blood could be from mechanical damage instead. The only obvious issue for me, now, is his LF HPA and the small imbalances, which you are already working on, and his toes being farther forward than we advise here at ECIR. Not sure if it interests you, but I use a 3 deg rubber wedge on my horse's hinds in his boots because he has chronically low and underrun heels. It takes some of the strain off his DDFT and other ligaments in the hoof. You could try putting something like that in Chancellor's boot on the LF only to reduce the strain he must feel when exercising. That might be contributing to his intermittent lameness? When we see HPAs broken back to that degree, we generally don't recommend riding or extensive exercise until it's corrected. In the meantime a rubber wedge could help. https://barehoofcare.com/product/natural-rubber-wedge-pads/ -- Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019 Kitimat, BC, Canada ECIR Group Moderator Shaku's Photo Album Snickers' Case History Snickers' Photo Album |
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To clarify: his hay diet is fine and doesn't need changing. But I hope you can find a way to test your hay and get the appropriate minerals into him!
-- Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019 Kitimat, BC, Canada ECIR Group Moderator Shaku's Photo Album Snickers' Case History Snickers' Photo Album |
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Daisy Shepherd
KIRSTEN, DID YOIR FARRIER SUGGEST HEEL WEDGE AND HOW MUCH OF A WEDGE. THANKS, DAISY,TIKO,WHISPER
-- -- Daisy, Tiko and Whisper CO, April 2019 Case History: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0 |
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Daisy, Lavinia suggested it. His hinds have basically ground parallel coffin bones and crushed heels, so the 3 deg wedge lifts them a little bit. This is something that goes in his boots. He actually stands more squarely with the wedges in.
-- Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019 Kitimat, BC, Canada ECIR Group Moderator Shaku's Photo Album Snickers' Case History Snickers' Photo Album |
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Thanks but yes I have tried all their forage type feeds and speeybeet
-- Christine and Chanceler 2022-11 Portugal https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=282893 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Chanceler’s%20case%20history |
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-Kirsten - hello thank you for your info. I am glad to hear his diet is ok. Is it possible to slowly start him back on pasture? That at least would help with the vitamin problem. I will keep working on getting sonething to put the minerals in that he will eat. I recently saw the copra meal advertised. So will look into that as well. The broken back HPA and palmar angle LF is no longer and issue, it was just that pretrim X-ray when he broke off his inside heel. Christine and Chanceler 2022-11 Portugal https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=282893 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Chanceler’s%20case%20history |
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Yes, I think you can start him on pasture. I would rerun non-fasting bloodwork after at least 4 hrs of grazing his pasture once he's at that point, and continue to monitor him. At any signs of hoof tenderness, I'd pull him off of it to be safe, until you can determine the cause of it.
-- Kirsten and Shaku (EMS + PPID) and Snickers (EMS) - 2019 Kitimat, BC, Canada ECIR Group Moderator Shaku's Photo Album Snickers' Case History Snickers' Photo Album |
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Thank you so much this is great news. I plant to start slow with 30 mins for a few days then will gradually go up to the 4 hours.
-- Christine and Chanceler 2022-11 Portugal https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=282893 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Chanceler’s%20case%20history |
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