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Sheila
I had both of my Welsh Cobs tested on October 21. Max, who is on 1.5 mg Prascend had a result of 46.7 and Maddie, who isn't currently being treated has a result of 31.2. My vet suggested starting to treat Maddie and possibly increasing Max's dose.
My understanding is since this was still during the seasonal rise, both are in normal range? -- Sheila October 2017 Central CA Sierra foothills https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sheila%20and%20Daniel https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=79191 |
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Trisha DePietro
Hi Sheila.
Once a horse is diagnosed with PPID- our goal is to keep their ACTH levels in the high teens to low 20's year round. I would agree with your vet to increase Max's dose. And recheck 3 weeks after a change in dose. If this is Maddie's first test- I think I might wait until December or January and test ACTH again. This will ensure that the seasonal rise is not influencing her numbers. Does Maddie have any symptoms? Why was she tested? How are Max's symptoms? -- Trisha DePietro Aug 2018 NH Primary Responder Dolly and Hope's Case Histories Dolly's Photos Hope's Photos HOW TO SEARCH THE ARCHIVES: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/wiki/1993 |
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Sheila
Maddie has a cresty neck but no actual PPID symptoms. She has been tested the past four years in the spring with results always around 30. She is Max's sister so I just want to stay on top of it.
-- Sheila October 2017 Central CA Sierra foothills https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sheila%20and%20Daniel https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=79191 |
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Sheila
-- Also Max doesn't have any symptoms now. He is in good condition and ridden regularly (when weather permits). Sheila October 2017 Central CA Sierra foothills https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sheila%20and%20Daniel https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=79191 |
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Hi Sheila, I agree with your vet and with Trisha that Max needs more pergolide. Increasing pergolide may or may not decrease insulin so it’s important to track both. Section D Welsh are less likely to be IR than their shorter relatives but that potential still exists. Martha in Vermont
ECIR Group Primary Response July 2012
Logo (dec. 7/20/19), Tobit(EC) and Pumpkin, Handy and Silver (EC/IR)
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Interesting statement about
the height of a given animal making them more or less susceptible to being
IR...
Does that mean that shorter Arabs are less likely than taller Arabs to be IR? -- Ellen Pal & Savvy N. Alabama Aug 2013 Case History |
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Trisha DePietro
Hi Ellen. Here is a link about Arabians- it doesn't mention height specifically, but at our last summit meeting, there was a researcher from Maryland that discussed the height gene is couple with a gene for EMS....I'll try to find that link for you...but just to warm you up with a quick scientific read :) https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/4%20Insulin%20Resistance/Gene%20markers%20for%20EMS%20in%20Arabian%20Horses.pdf --
Trisha DePietro Aug 2018 NH Primary Responder Dolly and Hope's Case Histories Dolly's Photos Hope's Photos HOW TO SEARCH THE ARCHIVES: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/wiki/1993 |
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The shorter animals may be more likely. This is because when animals are evolving under conditions of limited or poor food supply, smaller body size and insulin resistance are beneficial to survival.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com |
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DEBBIE GIRARD <dgwof@...>
I can only wish! i have a 15.2 h welsh cob with IR and there are two others just as tall in my town with IR.
-- Debbie Girard Massachusetts 2022 |
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