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Stabul 1 vs. Triple crown Low Starch/ and Balancer
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I DO have the Feed-list and chose Stabul 1.
I am aware that Triple crown Low Starch and Balancer are not on the list. Trying to compare the Stabul 1 to either of the Triple crown above- but reading the labels really does not Make much sense to me. Why are TC Low Starch and Balancer excluded from the safe feed list? I am NOT!!! arguing! Just trying yo comprehend🫶. Appreciate input! -- Rani in NY 2022 |
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Sherry Morse
Hi Rani, Stabul-1 is guaranteed to be 10% or less ESC+starch ALWAYS. Neither of the TC products are similarly guaranteed. The only thing that TC sells (which is actually not made by them) that is guaranteed to be 10% or less is the Timothy Balance Cubes which are made by Ontario Dehy.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891 |
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Trisha DePietro
Hi Tina. Here is the list of safe balancers. https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/5%20Core%20Diet/Acceptable%20Ration%20Balancers.pdf
When I looked at the Triple Crown low starch--- It had 6% fat as a MINIMUM....so it could be higher from bag to bag it will never be less than 6% and that is too high for IR horses. The Balancer had added iron--- a Minimum of 500 ppm...so at any time it could be much higher and we don't advise any additional iron added to feed. Horses don't need additional iron...so those are some reasons why those two products do not make my safe feeds list...I am sure there are other reasons...but those are the two that jump out at me and would make me say "no" if it were my horse.-- Hope this helps. Trisha DePietro Aug 2018 NH Primary Responder Dolly and Hope's Case Histories Dolly's Photos Hope's Photos HOW TO SEARCH THE ARCHIVES: https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/wiki/1993 |
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Bobbie Day
Tina if you want to confirm one way or the other you could always send in a sample yourself to compare to their “guaranteed” analysis. I think you’ll be surprised how different it will come out. Several members have done that and have been generous enough to share their results in our files.
-- Bobbie and Maggie Desi (over the rainbow bridge 7/21) Utah, Nov 2018 ECIR Group Primary Response https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Bobbie%20and%20Maggie https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=271156 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Bobbie%20and%20Desi https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78821 |
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Rani, ECIR files have one analysis of TC Low Starch. https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/files/9c%20Analyses%20of%20Various%20Feeds/Triple%20Crown%20Products/Triple%20Crown%20Low%20Starch%202013-09-12.pdf Starch was 9.7%. Notice that the Guaranteed Analysis given by TC excludes both ESC and Starch. Same for TC Balancer. The hints that TC Balancer might be problematic are three ingredients: wheat middlings and rice bran (high starch) and soy meal (phytoestrogens aren't not recommended).
If you send a sample of TC Balancer to Equi-Analytical for the Carb Pack (644), we'd be delighted to add that analysis to the Files. -- Cass, Sonoma Co., CA 2012 ECIR Group Moderator Cayuse and Diamond Case History Folder Cayuse Photos Diamond Photos |
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