uckele jiagulon


Daisy Shepherd
 

question;  IN THE FILES IT SAYS TO START AT 1/2 /TSP BID AND INCREASE IN INCREMENTS OF 1/4 TSP WITH NOTES ON GIVING ON EMPTPY STOMACH;  THE BAG FROM UCKELE SAYS ONE SCOOP DAILY  WITH NO FEEDING RESTRICTIONS; SCOOP IS LARGE 14.7CC. WHICH DO I DO.  MY HORSE HAS NOT FOUNDERED NOR TO MY KNOWLEDGE DOES HE HAVE LAMINITIS.  HAS VERY THIN SOLES, TRYING BAREFOOT TRYING J- HERB FOR HOOF GROWTH TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH MARKUPS;   IF I NEED TO DO THE 1/2 TSP BID, CAN I MAKE A BALL WITH BEET PULP  WITH HERB  24 HOURS AHEAD; HE IS BOARDED SO NEED TO MAKE AS EASY AS POSSIBLE;  MIXING IN HIS GRAIN IS WHAT WOULD WORK BEST FOR WORKERS.  THANK YOU, DAISY,TIKO,WHISPER
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
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Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

If you have seen the increased pink color to gums and tongue as you are giving it, stay with that.
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Eleanor in PA

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EC Owner 2001
The first step to wisdom is "I don't know."


Kirsten Rasmussen
 

Yes you can make it ahead, Daisy.  If feeding with food you might need to feed more.  Look for the change in gum colour.
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Kitimat, BC, Canada
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Daisy Shepherd
 

 thank you; tiko up to 1 tsp bid; i do see slight color change in gums more with tongue;  he does seem more perky; WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM DOSE OF J- HERB I SHOULD USE THANK YOU; DAISY, TIKO, WHISPER/
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
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Lorna Cane
 
Edited

This is from Dr. Kellon,Daisy:

"If you have seen the increased pink color to gums and tongue as you are giving it, stay with that."
https://ecir.groups.io/g/main/message/289159


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Lorna in Eastern Ontario
2002


Daisy Shepherd
 

thank you lorna;  yes i understand about the color changes;  my question is there a maximum dose of jiagulon  that is ok to give. thanks, daisy, tiko, whisper
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
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Lorna Cane
 

Hi Daisy,

You have said that you have noticed a colour change.
But do you mean how much Jiaogulan can be fed, if there still is no colour change. How great an amount can be fed before deciding to go to plan B ??


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Lorna in Eastern Ontario
2002


Eleanor Kellon, VMD
 

Daisy,

Jiaogulan is an extremely potent herb and should be given "to effect". If you are not seeing the gum/tongue color changes, you can go up but if you are, stop there. Like many herbs, it has anticoagulant effects and it also lowers blood pressure.
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Eleanor in PA

www.drkellon.com 
EC Owner 2001
The first step to wisdom is "I don't know."


Daisy Shepherd
 

dr kellon,  i am so sorry for my continued jiaogulon  questions; before i found this info in the files now i cannot.  tiko is at 1 1/2 tsp bid, minimal color change  i give it in his food, feel he needs more, cannot do any other way due to boarding issues;  also he was slightly coliky today and they wanted to give banamine i said  no  so just watched him now seems ok.   i remember not to use with     ginseng, bute ,  what are the vasodilating drugs to avoid?   thank you so much. daisy, tiko, whisper
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
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Daisy Shepherd
 

dr kellon and lorna,  finally i see real bright pink spots on the inside of his lower lip and gums some bright pink.  he is at 1 1/2 tsp bid with food; if he gets too much pink i will back down  to 1 1/4 tsp bid.  thank you so much, daisy,tiko,whisper
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Daisy, Tiko and Whisper
CO, April 2019
Case History:  https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Daisy%20and%20Tiko 
Photo Album: https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=90099&p=Name,,,20,2,0,0