Wellness Ready
I'm making this a separate thread from LJ's question since it's bound to come up again. Wellness Ready is the stall-side insulin test kit being marketed the last few months. I wrote to them to ask for their validation studies and this is what I received:
"Preverification studies comparing Wellness Ready assay results with Cornell assay results are ongoing at UC Davis. Assay validation data will be published upon completion." I'm not sure what preverification means in this context but the bottom line is they are not validated yet. -- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Interesting, since UC Davis vet lab doesn't offer insulin testing to the best of my knowledge. https://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/sites/g/files/dgvnsk491/files/inline-files/VMTH-Chemistry-Panel-Test-Grid-9.28.18_0.pdf
-- Cass, Sonoma Co., CA 2012 ECIR Group Moderator Cayuse and Diamond Case History Folder Cayuse Photos Diamond Photos
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Sherry Morse
Cass, My guess would be that they're using the Wellness Ready at UC Davis and shipping blood to Cornell at the same time and then comparing results. I'm curious to see if they actually move forward with this, because beyond the slick website and their own PR announcements I haven't been able to find anything else about it on the interwebs.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891
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When Vinnie was at UCD hospitalized in March they were using MSU for the insulin test. I thought was super odd since they told me they were going to use Cornell.
I never got the final insulin back but I thought it was interesting that the invoice cost for insulin was incredibly inexpensive when they had told me it was going to be like 300 dollars for every test. (They were not going to test insulin until I had requested it.) -- Nancy and Vinnie and Summer Oakley, Ca Joined Nov 2018 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=245855 Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Nancy%20and%20Vinnie/Summer https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=249104
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jmc
Thanks. I came here specifically to ask, as there's a full page ad in the back of the (probably couple month old) horse magazine I just finished. To me this sounds like an awesome idea, but I'll wait to see if it pans out as good science.
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Rita Chavez
So, does this mean they're selling a tool that isn't 100% working yet? Very confusing in their lingo. I am excited about such a product being available for quick dx of issues like IR.
-- Rita C. and Stetson (2001 Tennessee Walking Horse/Gelding, diagnosed IR) Aiken, South Carolina USA June 2021 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=265166 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Rita%20C.%20and%20Stetson
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Sherry Morse
As far as we can tell it's not actually being sold anywhere yet, but they have already set up a slick marketing site.
Thanks, Sherry and Scutch (and Scarlet over the bridge) EC Primary Response PA 2014 https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/files/Sherry%20and%20Scutch_Scarlet https://ecir.groups.io/g/CaseHistory/album?id=78891
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I agree it would be a fantastic thing to have but advertising it is premature. It hasn't been proven to work or be reliable yet. I certainly hope they are not accepting money/orders yet but it wouldn't be the first time a possibly bogus test method was fostered on horse owners. EquiSeq is a good example.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Janet Oppio
Shades of Theranos maybe? Seems like marketing a machine before its testing capabilities has been verified has a unsavory recent history. In the case of Theranos there were all manner of reputable investors and clients and they were all bilked.
-- Janet East Bay Northern CA Joined 2019
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Eleanor,do you know if there has been anything further about validation? I see this is appearing again.
https://wellnessready.com/?utm_campaign=EQM%20-%20NL%20-%20Research%20Reports&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=217080640&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--VNZveIuEcG415XTSM6zwF4C1iNzl7DC9DxqqhUa_Qc4oOwTvyH_a1rC7M8SXfqFDxjOWdgllcmL2Q81VlORVPTo2Sig&utm_content=217080640&utm_source=hs_email Thanks. -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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I contacted them again when they put this on the market, asking how closely their numbers actually correlated with the lab results and they directed me to the researcher who didn't answer the question, just said they were preparing a paper. The test performance information isn't very helpful.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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That's frustrating. We know "preparing a paper" can take years if its not on the forefront of the researcher's agenda, and in the end it may never be published. Case in point being the data for WIRX, which has been on the market for years, and promises to publish the study have so far not been acted on.
-- Kirsten and Shaku (IR + PPID) - 2019 Kitimat, BC, Canada ECIR Group Moderator Shaku's Photo Album
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Thanks,Eleanor.
I don't know why I am still blown away when we come across companies such as this. Slow learner,me. -- Lorna in Eastern Ontario
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It's not all that difficult to publish a paper if it has validity. When years have gone by (EquiSeq is another example), there's something wrong.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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Everyone wants them to work, but you have to remain skeptical until it's proven.
-- Eleanor in PA www.drkellon.com
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